Sons of the Tempest

Sir Mythos
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Sons of the Tempest Mar 29, 2017 9:51:48 GMT

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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 29, 2017 9:51:48 GMT

Since there are more and more Theme-Forces out in the wild, i thought i could give the "Sons of the Tempest" a try.
Out of my Brisbane-List i liked the module "ATGM + UA + Cyclone" since it does so much work.
So my idea started with

Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Pistoleers 11
- Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer 4
- Cyclone 13
Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Pistoleers 11
- Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer 4
- Cyclone 13

A quit solid start which works very well for its own. Since it is a Tempest list, i should add the solos:

Arcane Tempest Rifleman 0
Arcane Tempest Rifleman 0
Gun Mage Captain Adept 5
Gun Mage Captain Adept 5

The list lacks a bit damage-output against heavier targets, so i though i would include a caster with heavy range damage output and a nice battlegroup. Who better than Sloan?

Kara Sloan1 (Captain Kara Sloan) -28
- Hunter 11
- Hunter 11
- Hunter 11

So 4 points left. A wonderful spot for Strangeways - so my list ended as followed:

Kara Sloan1 (Captain Kara Sloan) -28
- Hunter 11
- Hunter 11
- Hunter 11
Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Pistoleers 11
- Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer 4
- Cyclone 13
Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Pistoleers 11
- Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer 4
- Cyclone 13
Arcane Tempest Rifleman 0
Arcane Tempest Rifleman 0
Captain Arlan Strangewayes 4
Gun Mage Captain Adept 5
Gun Mage Captain Adept 5

I was not sure if the Sloan + 2 Hunter build is good. I initially thought of pHalyes + 2 Defender (since she lost 1 WJP and is only on 27 - now i know why they changed that).

The list hat it's first test yesterday against a Abylonia1 Oracles of Annihilation list. I lost but only because the two Angelii survived my first turn both on 2 boxes (Sloan rolled 2+1+1+1 for damage against one of them).
Abys feat brought them both back - and the Hyperagressiv is quite nasty against a range list. But i liked the list and will take it to the next tournament.

My main plan is to drop it mainly into Hordes factions.

What are your Sons of the Tempest builds? Any ideas/trys? Maybe something with Caine2 + 2x Cyclone + 2x Tempest Blazers?

xadmar Lt. Warcaster Cygnar Fan Posts: 55	Sons of the Tempest Mar 29, 2017 20:49:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by xadmar on Mar 29, 2017 20:49:15 GMT One thought I have is have you looked at Haley 1 instead of Sloan? With having 3 jacks on Sloan it minimize her feat and field martial.
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Lamoron
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Sons of the Tempest Mar 30, 2017 10:56:08 GMT

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Post by Lamoron on Mar 30, 2017 10:56:08 GMT

Mar 29, 2017 20:49:15 GMT xadmar said:

One thought I have is have you looked at Haley 1 instead of Sloan? With having 3 jacks on Sloan it minimize her feat and field martial.

Switching to Haley1 will give you an insane amount of shots on feat turn.

36Cygnar24Guy36 Lt. Warcaster Posts: 71	Sons of the Tempest Mar 30, 2017 12:04:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 36Cygnar24Guy36 on Mar 30, 2017 12:04:11 GMT The Problem with Haley 1 in Sons of the Tempest is the def debuff part of Temporal Barrier is only 14", rather than 16".

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Sons of the Tempest Mar 30, 2017 14:46:12 GMT

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Post by xadmar on Mar 30, 2017 14:46:12 GMT

Mar 30, 2017 12:04:11 GMT 36Cygnar24Guy36 said:

The Problem with Haley 1 in Sons of the Tempest is the def debuff part of Temporal Barrier is only 14", rather than 16".

I could see that being a problem if you relied on TB. With the list being mostly RAT 7 and with JM jacks being able to do Trueaim I dont know if TB is something you will need often. Deadeye can be used to help in situations where you really need to hit. Also Deadeye on the AMTG can help get that critical for either brutal or knockdown on Thunderbolt. Scramble to disrupt jacks so they cant run or charge your stuff. Then shoot them back D3 inches a bunch.

Don't get me wrong I think Sloan is almost always a better caster but with the list provided, mass troops, I think Haley 1 maybe better.

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Sons of the Tempest Mar 31, 2017 6:22:56 GMT

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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 31, 2017 6:22:56 GMT

Mar 29, 2017 20:49:15 GMT xadmar said:

One thought I have is have you looked at Haley 1 instead of Sloan? With having 3 jacks on Sloan it minimize her feat and field martial.

As stated in post one: I have thought of pHaley with 2x Defender since she has 1 WJP less than Sloan.

I tried the list yesterday against a high reclaimer list. Worked as intended since I builded the list against Hordes and not a Warmachine Faction. I lost on Szenario but mainly because of some bad dice rolls and a few wrong decisions from me.

He started and ran. I was able to kill all Idrians in my round 1 and (with a bit more luck) would have killed the 3 Vengers in the list too. But no luck for me.

If i would want to drop the list on a tournament in a Warmachine Faction, i would switch Sloan and the Hunters for the pHaley + 2 Defender build. Her Feat and Deadeye are very effective for the list.

But since this is not only about my list - has anyone tried a Sons of the Tempest list or dojoed some ideas?
I would like to hear your thought.

By the way: CRA for Gun Mages is stupid good.

Last Edit: Mar 31, 2017 6:24:08 GMT by Sir Mythos

Lamoron Journeyman Warcaster Posts: 11	Sons of the Tempest Mar 31, 2017 9:43:54 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lamoron on Mar 31, 2017 9:43:54 GMT You are aware that all the little Gun Mages need to be within 10" to participate, as they do not get their rune-shots when joining the CRA?

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Sons of the Tempest Mar 31, 2017 10:30:36 GMT

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Post by 36Cygnar24Guy36 on Mar 31, 2017 10:30:36 GMT

I am tempted to try Sons of the Tempest with Caine 1 once the Hurricane comes out, with Snipe on the Marshalled Cyclone for Snipe and Thunderbolt, plus the slams and KD guns on the Hurricane (all magical to get around passage)I think you could achieve some pretty tilting control. No Squire is very sad but the benefits may make it worth it.

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Sons of the Tempest Mar 31, 2017 10:48:31 GMT

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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 31, 2017 10:48:31 GMT

Mar 31, 2017 9:43:54 GMT Lamoron said:

You are aware that all the little Gun Mages need to be within 10" to participate, as they do not get their rune-shots when joining the CRA?

Yes - it's still quite awesome. And only the dudes who do not fire need to be within 10".

So 1 in 10", 1 in 14", the 14er guy uses snipe. Works.

No Squire is a point. I do not miss him in this list, since Sloan is normally on enough Focus for 3 Hunters. Only in Feat turn, i could use 1 or 2 more (Strangeways helps here).
But in other builds - you have to think a little bit out of the box.

The pHaley build seems very powerful against Warmachine, with 2 Rifleman in Feat killing the Cortex of a Jack.

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Sons of the Tempest Apr 17, 2017 9:54:57 GMT

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Post by rantapanda on Apr 17, 2017 9:54:57 GMT

Been playing Son of the Tempest with Haley1. Mostly been against legion and skorne. its been a very fun list to play. So much shooting. Managed to down two skorne heavies in feat turn. cyclone managed to get critical brutal damage, which I also boosted from arlans powerup. that sweet damage.. Its not a very strong list but still very fun to play. Ranged assassination is always there with TB and Flares. Aiming RAT8 POW14 jacks do suprising amout of damage, even though its not the best against armor skew which we are facing a lot nowadays.

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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 29, 2017 9:51:48 GMT

Post by xadmar on Mar 29, 2017 20:49:15 GMT

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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 31, 2017 6:22:56 GMT

Post by Lamoron on Mar 31, 2017 9:43:54 GMT

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