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Post by olannon on Mar 23, 2017 23:55:49 GMT
So... I dojo a lot. Very few of the lists I make in war room end up anywhere. Yet every once in a while something interesting shows up. This time it just so happened to be Caine2. I found a build with him which I really like! Before I post it up, anyone care to guess what it looks like?
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Caine2?!
Mar 24, 2017 0:44:41 GMT
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Post by bluebarren on Mar 24, 2017 0:44:41 GMT
Maybe laddermore for a crazy FFE target? Or something that makes use of that spell...trencher cannon, marshalled avenger, storm strider, storm tower?
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Caine2?!
Mar 24, 2017 3:15:56 GMT
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Post by Phoenixforger on Mar 24, 2017 3:15:56 GMT
Sons of the Tempest, double Blazers. Hurricane.
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Caine2?!
Mar 24, 2017 5:45:08 GMT
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Post by sleet01 on Mar 24, 2017 5:45:08 GMT
Horgenhold Artillery Corps + Murdoch + "what is this 'screening' of which you speak?"
75points [ Captain Allister Caine ] WC:1 WJ:5 U:2 S:4
Captain Allister Caine(*27points) * Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator(4points) * Ace(12points) * Centurion(17points) Horgenhold Artillery Corps(6points)(4models) * Captain Jonas Murdoch(4points) Trencher Infantry(16points)(10models) Trencher Master Gunner(4points) * Grenadier(9points) Trencher Master Gunner(4points) * Grenadier(9points) Journeyman Warcaster(4points) * Grenadier(9points) Viktor Pendrake(4points)
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Post by olannon on Mar 24, 2017 9:04:29 GMT
As per usual, the answer is in a theme force:
Cygnar - Caine2?!?
Theme: Heavy Metal 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Allister Caine - WJ: +27 - Squire - PC: 0 - Stormwall - PC: 39 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27) - Lightning Pod - Ace - PC: 12 - Hunter - PC: 11 - Hunter - PC: 11
Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 0 Journeyman Warcaster - PC: 0 - Hunter - PC: 11 Lieutenant Allison Jakes - PC: 0 - Stormclad - PC: 18
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Post by Torres on Mar 24, 2017 11:32:20 GMT
Theme: Heavy Metal 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Captain Allister Caine - WJ: +27 - Squire - PC: 0 - Stormwall - PC: 39 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27) - Lightning Pod - Ace - PC: 12 - Hunter - PC: 11 - Hunter - PC: 11 Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 0 Journeyman Warcaster - PC: 0 - Hunter - PC: 11 Lieutenant Allison Jakes - PC: 0 - Stormclad - PC: 18 This is the list I created two days ago for three list event (with pre-game ban for one rooster). I needed something to cover PoM if my eHaley will get banned and something for clouds to back up 3Caine. eCaine was obvious choice. Add some firepower to stop any Cygnar list and we are ready to go. I'm happy and relieved. I thought that my favorite caster is dead. If I think in the same way as Jarle, I must be some kind of genius, right? P.S. Olannon, I also wanted you to know that you have one more fan from Poland!
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Post by olannon on Mar 24, 2017 13:38:18 GMT
Best of luck Looking forward to hearing about field results with this!
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Post by olannon on Mar 28, 2017 20:11:00 GMT
Hunters feel somewhat underwhelming/overcosted (take your pick) in this list. I'm looking to somehow change it up and preferably get more punch and flexibility. That inevitably means another heavy at least but I don't really know where to put it. Having 2 heavies on Jakes feels iffy. Caine is focus hungry... Decisions!
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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 29, 2017 9:39:07 GMT
The list looks nice. Afer April the Hurricane should be a better solution than the Stormwall - the Slam/KD on the Gun helps a lot to open Assasinationangels.
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Post by Lamoron on Mar 29, 2017 10:37:55 GMT
The list looks nice. Afer April the Hurricane should be a better solution than the Stormwall - the Slam/KD on the Gun helps a lot to open Assasinationangels. Fully loaded with FFE also allows the Hurricane some absurd destructive potential, as long as the first shot lands to KD, as all four shots will have boosted damage.
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Post by wwjonnyd on Mar 29, 2017 15:45:21 GMT
The list looks nice. Afer April the Hurricane should be a better solution than the Stormwall - the Slam/KD on the Gun helps a lot to open Assasinationangels. Fully loaded with FFE also allows the Hurricane some absurd destructive potential, as long as the first shot lands to KD, as all four shots will have boosted damage. Unfortunately that's not how FFE works. Or are you talking about left over focus to boost all the damage?
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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 29, 2017 15:53:47 GMT
No, he states FFE + 3 Fokus for 1 full boosted shot from FFE (with KD) and 3x boosted damage (with focus).
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Post by wwjonnyd on Mar 29, 2017 17:06:05 GMT
ahhh I get it.
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Post by Lamoron on Mar 29, 2017 17:14:12 GMT
Exactly what i meant, FFE + Full focus. I proxied it a while back (with pre-nerf Caine2 though), and yeah... run in a Firefly and the damage output is absurd.
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Post by Sir Mythos on Mar 31, 2017 6:33:46 GMT
And in case of emergency - slam the Firefly with the first shoot. I thought of something like this with him: System: Warmachine Faction: Cygnar Caster: 1 / 1 Points: 75 / 75 Caine2 (Captain Allister Caine) -27 - Ace 12 - Hurricane 39 - Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator 4 Journeyman Warcaster 4 - Charger 9 Captain Arlan Strangewayes 4 Trencher Infantry (Leader and 5) 10 - Trencher Infantry Officer & Sniper 5 Field Mechaniks (Leader and 2) 3 Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios 7 Gun Mage Captain Adept 5 FFE on the Gun Mages, Hightend Reflexes on Trenchers and Bullet Dodger on Caine. Ace for LOS and Solo-Hunting. Reinhold in case of Stealth and for the extra Shot. Journeyman for AS on Hurricane and backline shooting with the Charger. Strangeways for repair and focus on the Hurricane. Trencher for annoying the opponent. Eiryss for Disruption and Caster-Hunting. The GMCA for Solo and UA-Hunting. I'm not sold on the Mechanics. Anything other that could be interesting? Maybe Anastasia?
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Post by Lamoron on Mar 31, 2017 7:15:22 GMT
Mechaniks are my favorite unit! Sure Gobber Tinkers are technically better, but it goes like this...
1 point left: - redo entire list
2 points left: - Gobber Tinker
3 points left: - Mechaniks
4 points left: - Screw Mechaniks, I can have another nifty solo! (Unless Arlan somehow isn't already in the list, in which case... Arlan!)
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